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[bluegrn]

It's kinda really big in entertainment these days, I don't know if I'm allowed to post something like this, but hey, it's worth a try.

So what do yall think? is Jackson guilty?

[brandishing_fist]

That man is absolutely, positively innocent. I dont wanna bore you guys on why I think so..but if you really wanna know i'll be more than happy to tell ya... :wink:

[LeonM]

He's guilty. The man is a pedofile.

[Fluffy_Bunny]

even if he isn't a pedofile, he's guilty of being a lunatic who likes to touch little boys...

[brandishing_fist]

*ahem ahem*


This is gonna be a long one kiddies...

1st of all, I feel like spellcheck but its *pedophile* and nah, hes not guilty. I think this country likes to blow things out of proportion. Not evrything has to be sexual and thats what theyre making it out to be. Micheal Jackson never had a childhood, so why shudnt he be able to live it out now? Do you know how many kids he has helped? I never heard any of them complain that he molested them. Theres nothing wrong with sleeping in the same bed with a child because unlike those in America, its a common thing to do. I know I did that with my parents when I was younger. No cribs in my house.

2nd of all, the parents of the child are known for thier scams. The boys father once told him to rob a JC PENNEY. When they were caught, the father told police that the guards beat them. They then won 500,000 dollars in court. All of this is just a scam to get money, as was the other child molestation case.

3rd of all, its alllllll jealousy. No1 in the world can compare to Micheal Jackson and guess what? Hes also a black man. Did any1 say nething to Roman Polansky having sex with a 14 yr old girl? The guy won a f**kin Oscar. Interesting how the media chooses who's guilty and who's innocent doesnt it?

Dont believe everything that you hear...

[LeonM]

I'm using quote to break down his arguments

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Micheal Jackson never had a childhood, so why shudnt he be able to live it out now?

He's no longer a child and has developed sexual urges as does every human

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Do you know how many kids he has helped? I never heard any of them complain that he molested them.

Most people are afraid to say anything becuase they believe they did something wrong. Such is the case with rape victims

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All of this is just a scam to get money, as was the other child molestation case.

Though you have some good arguments for this one, the other one was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount, meaning Jackson was not so confident about his innocence.

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3rd of all, its alllllll jealousy. No1 in the world can compare to Micheal Jackson and guess what? Hes also a black man.

Beleive me when I say this, nobody is jealous of a middle aged man going through a mid-life crisis where he touches little boys to gain another 15 minutes of fame. And Jacko hasn't been black for a long time.

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Did any1 say nething to Roman Polansky having sex with a 14 yr old girl? The guy won a f**kin Oscar. Interesting how the media chooses who's guilty and who's innocent doesnt it?

No one said Polanski was innocent, hell the man has been out of the country since the late 70's if i'm correct. He wasn't even able to accept his Oscar properly. So nobody, including the media is seeing this as a racial issue. The difference between the two situations is that Polanski didn't get an award for having sex with a minor, he got it for a film he made. Jacko didn't have people sue him for earning a grammy, he got it for touching a little boy.

[brandishing_fist]

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I'm using quote to break down his arguments

It's "her"

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He's no longer a child and has developed sexual urges as does every human

I never said he wasn't a child. I said why shouldn't he have his childhood now? And i never denied that he didnt have sexual urges. But who said it was towards children? Have YOU met him to ask him?:wink:

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Most people are afraid to say anything becuase they believe they did something wrong.

Doubt it. Although it is plausible.

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the other one was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount, meaning Jackson was not so confident about his innocence.

You may very well be right, but you could also be dead wrong. Who knows except for Micheal and the family that sued him?

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Beleive me when I say this, nobody is jealous of a middle aged man going through a mid-life crisis where he touches little boys to gain another 15 minutes of fame. And Jacko hasn't been black for a long time.

Lol, i din mean that people were jealous of him being a middle aged man and all that but look at all he accomplished. His music transcends gender, race, and age. Hes spent millions helping those he could, and hes a VERY talented performer/artist. You have people everywhere imitating him, copying him, and MILLIONS have been influenced by him. Noone will ever be able to top him. You really cannot deny that, either if youre a fan or you arent. People are jealous of THAT.

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No one said Polanski was innocent, hell the man has been out of the country since the late 70's if i'm correct. He wasn't even able to accept his Oscar properly. So nobody, including the media is seeing this as a racial issue. The difference between the two situations is that Polanski didn't get an award for having sex with a minor, he got it for a film he made. Jacko didn't have people sue him for earning a grammy, he got it for touching a little boy.

I din say people say that hes innocent. Its really sad that he couldnt even accept his own Oscar. Im just saying, the media chooses who to prey on. Have you heard one bad thing said about that director? He hasnt even been called HALF the things that Micheal Jackson has been called and Jackos case is ALLEGED. Polanski's is proven. Its like Robert Durst and that guy that chopped up 48 women. How come Micheal Jackson gets called the "freak" and the "animal" in all the newspapers and not them?

All im saying is, no1 knows the truth for sure and its pretty ignorant to go and say "OH hes guilty!" and banish him off to perdition because of these allegations.

As you can see, Im a Micheal fan

[BKBuffyGurl]

The only thing that I have to point out is, is that it was when Michael Jackson stopped paying for the chld's treatment that the allegations began. Michael Jackson is a wonderful man and a musical genius.

[WEBS]

Musical genius - yes, definitely.
Wonderful man - philanthropist, I guess you can say that's wonderful. But that's all I can comment on.
Guilty or innocent - Innocent until proven guilty

brandishing_fist, I completely agree with you on the point that the media is picking on Jackson more than they would on anyone else.

[Fluffy_Bunny]

Dude, the man's whiter than a sunlight virgin programmer... pigment wise

[BKBuffyGurl]

So what he's still black at heart and we should all stop trying to bring the man down he's one of the most successful black men ever. Have respect.

[LeonM]

Musical Genious? Definately not.

He didn't write his music (notes-wise) they were produced for him. He is one of these robotic "american idol" bull!@#$ pre-made pop stars before there were cameras showing how he was made. Open your eyes and realize that there is a difference between popularity and musical genious.

[brandishing_fist]

Actually....he's written AND produced A LOT of his own music, including his most popular songs..

If it was only pre-fabrication that made him famous, people would notice that he was untalented and he would've burnt out a long long time ago.

And anyways, the argument is is he guilty or not? The answer is...he will forever be innocent...until that day that he is proven guilty.

Oh and thanks WEBS. See im not alone!! *happy dance* :wink:

[ephemerous]

he might be insane, but he just needs to be around children because he hasn't had a childhood of his own. that's why his whole home is one big theme park.

[bluegrn]

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he might be insane, but he just needs to be around children because he hasn't had a childhood of his own. that's why his whole home is one big theme park.

Yea, about that childhood thing. They said his father basically took away most of his childhood to make money, so yes I agree with the theme park thing. But still, even if he is around children don't mean he needs to molest them.

The reason I think he's molesting these kids, all boys, is because he didn't get a feel of himself when he was a boy, so he needs to make up for his loss of conciousness of his boyhood now at the age of 45... kinda creepy.

[Prezmet]

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Actually....he's written AND produced A LOT of his own music, including his most popular songs..

If it was only pre-fabrication that made him famous, people would notice that he was untalented and he would've burnt out a long long time ago.

And anyways, the argument is is he guilty or not? The answer is...he will forever be innocent...until that day that he is proven guilty.

Oh and thanks WEBS. See im not alone!! *happy dance* :wink:

Yes, 'tis true.. 'tis true. Not to mention that he is a world-class choreographer.

I do not believe Michael Jackson is guilty. I believe, like I feel every American citizen should believe, that all accused persons are innocent until proven guilty. Mr. Jackson has never been convicted by any court. His only sentence was handed to him by a vindictive media and a foolishly susceptible public.

[Xilenx]

Although this was mentioned earlier, about the family being con artist or just sue happies, whichever, I think I heard something that the family which is suing M.Jackson, also filed for bankruptcy recently.

Secondly, if there was so much publicity or suspicion of M. Jackson being a pedophile and a child molestor, what parent in their right minds would ever send their children to go to M. Jackson's house?

It would also be interesting to find out when this child has visited his estate, was it before or after bankruptcy, how many times has he visited, both before and after bankruptcy, and how long has this kid stayed quiet before saying something about this issue? I'm not positive on those facts, and if somebody can link me, or we can wait until the trial takes place, I guess we'll have our answer.

[bluegrn]

I think if he hadn't bleached his skin and did those surgeries, everyone'd probably think he's innocent right now.

[Xilenx]

he had a skin condition, if he didn't bleach his skin he would have had melionton (sp?) deficiency, which would make him look like a black guy with white dots all over. uglier than he is now.

we had a discussion about m. jackson, and can't help to feel almost sorry for him. he never really had a childhood, hence neverland, and he was always offended by the stereotype that black people had big noses. he just horrifically disturbed, most of which came from his childhood.

[WEBS]

The nose part: I believe he said in an interview that his father used to make fun of his nose. That is one of the reasons he had surgery. Another one (according to him) is so that he could breathe better and hit higher notes.