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[leo2car]

Huckabee has won the Iowa Republican Caucus and Obama has won the Iowa Democratic Caucus by CNN Projections .

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/03/iow...uses/index.html

Any reaction??

[z2z007]

My view on Huckabee:

[PongyN]

Huckabee for President 2008!

[Charles]

I am happy that Bill Richardson came in fourth. He is my favorite candidate and fourth is pretty strong with such tough competition.

[randomania3]

I like bill richardson too! It's a pity he probably does not have a good chance of winning the nomination. he's been my favorite from when I started tracking the election sometime last year.

[Charles]

Charles, on Jan 3 2008, 11:54 PM, said:

I am happy that Bill Richardson came in fourth. He is my favorite candidate and fourth is pretty strong with such tough competition.

Actually after looking at how much he lost by I take it back. He only received 2% of the votes. I was surprised that Giuliana finished so low.

[Awad]

Charles, on Jan 4 2008, 12:12 AM, said:

Actually after looking at how much he lost by I take it back. He only received 2% of the votes. I was surprised that Giuliana finished so low.

That's because the public realizes that Mr. 9/11 would be a horrible choice.

[tycoonboy388]

I was really surprised how much the Iowa votes were on Obama, Hillary and Edwards. Together they took 97% of the vote, normally its much more fractured like on the Republican side, where everyone but Giuliani and the no name Duncan Hunter finished in single digits. I was shocked to see that Biden and Richardson did so poorly, they were really counting on Iowa to at least give them something. I'm excited for Obama, I've been supporting him for a long time, and it was awesome to see such a big turnout for him in Iowa. I'm optimistic for the New Hampshire primary, which I think if Obama wins could solidify his chances as the future Democratic nominee.

As for Mike Huckabee, I don't agree with him on many things, but I really hate Mitt Romney. I'm just hoping that this spells the end for Romney, and hopefully Giuliani too. I also want to finally have the Ron Paul supporters shut up, but that probably won't happen until much later, seeing as his supporters have given him millions to finish in 5th place in Iowa.

[AFaust3]

Huckabee truly scares me. Am I the only one that thinks he bears resemblance to Charles Logan (from 24)?

tycoonboy388, on Jan 4 2008, 10:31 AM, said:

I was really surprised how much the Iowa votes were on Obama, Hillary and Edwards. Together they took 97% of the vote, normally its much more fractured like on the Republican side, where everyone but Giuliani and the no name Duncan Hunter finished in single digits.

That's because on the Democratic side, the rules of the Caucus are such that any candidate not getting 15% of the vote on the first head count is deemed non-viable and the people who voted for those candidates re-vote for another. The Republican version is simply secret ballot, so the less viable candidates still appear to get a sizeable percentage.

[z2z007]

I don't think much can be said on the Democratic side because there are so few votes altogether compared to the Republican side.

[leo2car]

I am happy that Clinton did not win, the country does not need another Clinton. Too much repetition and i hate her stance on the issues, Obama i need to hear more about. But i am waiting for Lou Dobbs to run as an independent.

[z2z007]

http://www.issues2000.org/default.htm

I think this is a good site to see where each candidate stands on the issues.

[tycoonboy388]

AFaust3, on Jan 4 2008, 10:45 AM, said:

Huckabee truly scares me. Am I the only one that thinks he bears resemblance to Charles Logan (from 24)?

He looks a little bit like Logan, but Logan really looked like Nixon to me, and Huckabee doesn't remind me of Nixon at all. Maybe because I still remember Huckabee before he became a frontrunner when people joked that his claim to fame was losing 100 pounds.

AFaust3, on Jan 4 2008, 10:45 AM, said:

That's because on the Democratic side, the rules of the Caucus are such that any candidate not getting 15% of the vote on the first head count is deemed non-viable and the people who voted for those candidates re-vote for another. The Republican version is simply secret ballot, so the less viable candidates still appear to get a sizeable percentage.

Yeah, I know how the Democratic Caucus works, but still, if you look at the results from 2004, more candidates finished with actual results. Kerry and Edwards both polled over 30%, but Richard Gephardt and Howard Dean still polled big numbers (18% and 10%). By contrast, Richardson was basically shut out, with not even 2% of the delegates, I don't think anyone expected that, because I don't think anyone thought Obama, Clinton and Edwards would all poll over 30%.

z2z007, on Jan 4 2008, 01:14 PM, said:

I don't think much can be said on the Democratic side because there are so few votes altogether compared to the Republican side.

Z, I don't exactly what you mean here. More people participated in the Democratic Caucus, nearly twice as many people voted in the Democratic caucus over the Republican caucus. I think the final tally is 239,000 to 120,000. The Democrats had a big showing last night. Can you elaborate?

[z2z007]

You're right tycoon. I was ignorant about how the Democratic caucus is run differently from the Republican one.

[EndocrineFlippa]

my reactions: yeaaaaa Obama!, in your face Hillary!, and take that romney!

i'm pretty happy Obama won by such a nice percentage, what was is it like 7% or 8% percent more? i'm also happy for Edwards' second place finish... i think hes a good guy even though i wouldn't support him in the primaries...

on the Republican side... haha, who saw Chuck Norris behind Huckabee when he was delivering that speech? sooo funny! i'm pretty happy Romney didn't win and that Guliani didn't do well (though he wasn't really trying to win Iowa)... i was hoping McCain would beat out thompson... but obviously that didn't happen. hopefully McCain will gain some ground in New Hampshire.

also i thought it was funny that Duncan Hunter received votes when he dropped out over a week ago...

and you want Lou Dobbs to run as an independent? he'd have no chance at all... I do hope Bloomberg runs though with Chuck Hagel as VP... that'd be sweet

[katinka]

I am so happy that Obama won! As for the republicans... blah... I'm not a big fan of any, but I do hope that McCain wins the nomination-- even if he wins the presidency, it won't be as bad (in my opinion) as if Romney or Huckabee does... especially Huckabee. Too bad he did so poorly in Iowa.

[EndocrineFlippa]

katinka, on Jan 5 2008, 03:28 PM, said:

I'm not a big fan of any, but I do hope that McCain wins the nomination-- even if he wins the presidency, it won't be as bad (in my opinion) as if Romney or Huckabee does... especially Huckabee. Too bad he did so poorly in Iowa.

I don't think hes worried about his Iowa finish... i don't think anyone was expecting him to get a top spot in a fairly religious state (Iowa) with a Baptist Minister running... New Hampshire on the other hand is a state that will be more telling for him

[randomania3]

I don't think the Democrats will win the election if their candidate is Clinton or Obama as it is starting to appear to be because America has some backwards prejudice people. And the Republicans know it too- they've been supporting Clinton as a nominee.. And Edwards has a wife dying of cancer, which isn't exactly a great predicament to be in when starting the presidency. I dislike Huckabee because of some of the ideas he supports in terms of religion and such. and if the Democrat nominee is any of the current forerunners and he continues his current popularity- he'll win. That's a scary thought...

[Awad]

I think Obama has an incredibly good chance of winning if nominated.

Republican side, Hucakbee is better than the rest but Ron Paul truly stands out. It's a shame he won't win. He's the only logically thinking candidate on their side.

[z2z007]

I don't think most of America is ready to elect a person that is not white for president, sadly. The conservatism in this country is pretty strong though we don't see it in NYC that much.